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the barack obama i heard on the debate stage was the barack obama i have been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case and i think that the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and he took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. and it is not surprising to me that he didn't argue it very well and the other thing is despite his reputation as being this world class orator, maybe he is with a set piece speech. there was not a lot of evidence in the past that he was ever a great debater. i don't think this thing was as big a shock as the president's supporters on the left feel. i think they all thought he was 10 feet tall. he is not 10 feet tall. never has been. >> chris: about the specific issue of the truth squadding, fact checking of romney, and they continue to press. i don't think it is a very accurate thing, the $5 trillion tax cut and ta
the barack obama i heard on the debate stage was the barack obama i have been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case and i think that the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and he took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. and it is not...
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she stumbled on the truth when she said that obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game, that is his game. if he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see it in his press conferences where he does not have a prompter. he has never been good at conferences. he rambles. the press has been unimpressed with what he does. he can decide how long he wants to take for an answer. this is who he is. it is going to be at a town hall the next one. he has more ability to connect with an audience than romney, so he will have an advantage in the second debate that he did not have been the first. >> would you rather be good or lucky? 7.8% unemployment rate. that is pretty good news. >> unless you actually look at the numbers. if you look at those getting new jobs, aut 114,000. the need to have 150 to stay at the same rate. what has been happening is you have people leaving the work force, retiring, or -- wait a minute, nina -- or when you become chronically unemployed, over one year, you drop off the rolls and you are not put in the denomina
she stumbled on the truth when she said that obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game, that is his game. if he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see it in his press conferences where he does not have a prompter. he has never been good at conferences. he rambles. the press has been unimpressed with what he does. he can decide how long he wants to take for an answer. this is who he is. it is going to be at a town hall the next one. he has more ability to...
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here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of times over the last 20 years, i knew it was going to be -- you mind if i take my coat off with your permission? thank you. all right. >> check out the buysep flex -- are we really going to show a bisep flex? we missed it. okay. close your eyes. okay. the vp's allure is the subject of a new piece in politico. politico senior washington, d.c. correspondent jonathan allen wrote it and joins me now. jonathan, we did miss the bicep shot, paul ryan has the px 90 thing going on. we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charmin
here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of...
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the ad they rolled out after the debate. >> i'm barack obama and i approve this message. >> i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. that's not my plan. >> the nan partisan tax policies concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost 4.8 billion dollars over ten years. >> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breakses according to experts he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here, how can we ever trust him here. >> kim, first of all, i should point out they're using the wall street journal's name in vein, we do not endorse-- we think that tax policy center study is completely bogus, but kim, this suggests to me that they are not changing strategy, they're doubling down on their strategy of going after mitt romney. >> yeah, if you thought it was ugly so far, just hold on. and the problem the democrats have is that, what mitt romney really did in denver is he demolished to a certain extent their main campaign strategy. their goal was to go out there and present h
the ad they rolled out after the debate. >> i'm barack obama and i approve this message. >> i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. that's not my plan. >> the nan partisan tax policies concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost 4.8 billion dollars over ten years. >> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breakses according to experts he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class or increase the deficit to pay...
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romney is out with a new podcast this afternoon, in which he attacks president obama over his debate performance. >> president obama could not defend his record. he offered no new ideas for how to fix the economy. i welcome the chance to share my vision for renewed prosperity and opportunity and i think it compared quite favorably to president obama's policy for big, trickle-down government. >> this past hour, mitt romney's son, josh, met with reporters in the swing state of virginia. it's part of a day-long effort the campaign is calling super saturday, with volunteers going door to door in battleground states. president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only d
romney is out with a new podcast this afternoon, in which he attacks president obama over his debate performance. >> president obama could not defend his record. he offered no new ideas for how to fix the economy. i welcome the chance to share my vision for renewed prosperity and opportunity and i think it compared quite favorably to president obama's policy for big, trickle-down government. >> this past hour, mitt romney's son, josh, met with reporters in the swing state of...
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been in a presidential debate like this. >> obama: who will have the zingers. >> romney: the $10,000 bet. >> no matter how many times they tell you they are he going start talking specifics really soon, they don't do it. >> it would take me too long to go through all of this now. >> the reason is because the math doesn't work. >> the devil is in the details. >> the devil is in the details. the angel is in the policy. >> why are you and romney losing? >> cenk: indeed, why are you losing? well, ladies and gentlemen it appears we got 'em. now last week i predicted that the race was over. but before that if you watch the show you know on set 19th i made a different prediction, not only would we believe that, but the republicans would believe it and act in accordance. we're going to count up, and we're going to find out how many days it will take before the republicans pull the chute and say, no, we're not putting any more money in the presidential race. we're shifting the money in the senate and congressional races because it will happen, and it appears that it has happened. listen to th
been in a presidential debate like this. >> obama: who will have the zingers. >> romney: the $10,000 bet. >> no matter how many times they tell you they are he going start talking specifics really soon, they don't do it. >> it would take me too long to go through all of this now. >> the reason is because the math doesn't work. >> the devil is in the details. >> the devil is in the details. the angel is in the policy. >> why are you and romney...
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the universe view even amongst the staunchest obama supportirs was that mitt romney won the debate. and tingle up his leg hearing obama speak he was in such a melt down he it is tangled run the leg because he wet his pants. some of the excuses for the president not being much better than the empty chair that clint east wood revealed . al gore thought it was thaltitude of denver. i think the former vice president may have been a little high. but another ridiculous made on another net work and he with a straight face suggests that obama didn't debate well because he was black. what after geth elected as president of the united states and serving four years bark obama walked out on the stage and said i am black, i can't take on the white guy. whether in sports or music or acting some days you don't have the juice. we squeezed out what we could and i will offer my humble and accurate assessment of the efirst of all mitt romney countering what the obama came pair is saying about his tax proposal. >> i have five boys and i am used to people saying something that is not always true ask kee
the universe view even amongst the staunchest obama supportirs was that mitt romney won the debate. and tingle up his leg hearing obama speak he was in such a melt down he it is tangled run the leg because he wet his pants. some of the excuses for the president not being much better than the empty chair that clint east wood revealed . al gore thought it was thaltitude of denver. i think the former vice president may have been a little high. but another ridiculous made on another net work and he...
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. >>> hoping to build momentum following the presidential debat debates, president obama stumping in california, mitt romney also on the road after what many saw as a lackluster debate last week for the president in particular. he's hoping the new lower unemployment rate will give him a boost. the president is attending a fund-raiser in los angeles, and then he heads on to ohio. mitt romney in the meantime is spending the weekend in florida where yesterday he spent much of the day preparing for the next debate. it's a must-win state if he wants to capture the white house. >>> and, of course, you don't want to forget that the vice presidential debate is this thursday. joe biden and paul ryan squaring off. our cnn coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> all right. some news for your car out there. honda is recalling 268,000 crvs, its popular suv, model years 2002 to 2006. they say there's a faulty window stwich in the driver's side door, and if it gets wet it can start fire. no crashes or injuries have been reported but honda knows a four-switch fires. >>> space travel will be a busi
. >>> hoping to build momentum following the presidential debat debates, president obama stumping in california, mitt romney also on the road after what many saw as a lackluster debate last week for the president in particular. he's hoping the new lower unemployment rate will give him a boost. the president is attending a fund-raiser in los angeles, and then he heads on to ohio. mitt romney in the meantime is spending the weekend in florida where yesterday he spent much of the day...
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obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will be this. it will be in a town hall. he has got more ability to connect with an audience than romney. he will have an advantage in the second debate that he did not have been the first. >> would you rather be good or lucky? 7.8% unemployment rate. that is pretty good news. >> unless you look at the actual numbers. if you look at those with new jobs, about 114,000. you have to have 150,000 to stay at the same rate. what has been happening is you have people leaving the work force, retiring, or read a wait a minute, nina -- or when you become chronically unemployed, over the one year
obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will...
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obama will be on the road through wednesday's first presidential debate. mitt romney heads to colorado tomorrow where he will hold a rally and continue his preparations for wednesday's showdown in denver. he went to church this morning outside boston but held no public events over the weekend. >>> in iraq, at least 30 people were killed today in a wave of bombings. sudden explosions hit in or near baghdad. it's the deadliest day in iraq in nearly a month. shiite muslim communities appear to be the targets of the attacks. >>> a pakistani girl accused of desecrating the koran. she was setup. >>> this is a desperate search for two little children in tennessee. everybody believed a 9-year-old girl and her 7-year-old brother were among those killed, but remains have not been found. police consider the kids not dead but missing, and more on that story coming up moments away. >>> and in texas, stranded drivers had to be rescued after flooding drenched parts of the state yesterday. get this. the past three days, yep, brought more rain than texas got all of last ye
obama will be on the road through wednesday's first presidential debate. mitt romney heads to colorado tomorrow where he will hold a rally and continue his preparations for wednesday's showdown in denver. he went to church this morning outside boston but held no public events over the weekend. >>> in iraq, at least 30 people were killed today in a wave of bombings. sudden explosions hit in or near baghdad. it's the deadliest day in iraq in nearly a month. shiite muslim communities...
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president obama and mitt romney will face off in two debates after tonight's. the next one is a week from tomorrow in danville, kentucky. you can watch tonight's debate right here on nbc 4. live coverage begins at 9:00. we will have local reaction right after on news 4 at 11:00. >>> president obama appears to have just received a boost in the battleground state of pennsylvania. a judge ruled that voters there won't have to show photo i.d. to cast ballots next month. the decision strikes down pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. democrats say the law disenfranchises voters who don't have photo i.d. republicans say the law is necessary to crack down on voter fraud. >>> intel against centers that started after 9/11 and touted as a center piece of counterterrorism are being blasted by a senate panel this morning. the so-called fusion centers were meant to help local, state and federal officials fight terrorism, but the report says the 77 centers have become pools of wasteful spending and irrelevant and useful intelligence. the report also cites potential spying on am
president obama and mitt romney will face off in two debates after tonight's. the next one is a week from tomorrow in danville, kentucky. you can watch tonight's debate right here on nbc 4. live coverage begins at 9:00. we will have local reaction right after on news 4 at 11:00. >>> president obama appears to have just received a boost in the battleground state of pennsylvania. a judge ruled that voters there won't have to show photo i.d. to cast ballots next month. the decision...
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romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> trac
romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy....
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about, you know, a nearly unrecognizable obama during the debate. then the next day he kind of came alive. he was on fire again, et cetera. has his camp said anything about his new strategy or returning to the old strategy? anything to that degree? >> reporter: right. well, they have talked about the president responding to the romney that they said showed up at the debates. the president very aggressive now and all indications are that's the strategy into the next debate as well. one thing we're seeing is that top advisers for the president are also still attacking mitt romney for his performance during that debate. the on the sunday morning shows, a couple of top advisers, david axelrod and robert gibbs calling it him dishonest. one said governor romney has a strange relationship with the truth. >> mitt did a superb acting job. you know, he did everything but learn tap dance. >> he was dishonest when he said he never proposed $5 trillion in tax cuts, that was dishonest. you said on the broadcast to 70 million americans, i will repeal obama care, b
about, you know, a nearly unrecognizable obama during the debate. then the next day he kind of came alive. he was on fire again, et cetera. has his camp said anything about his new strategy or returning to the old strategy? anything to that degree? >> reporter: right. well, they have talked about the president responding to the romney that they said showed up at the debates. the president very aggressive now and all indications are that's the strategy into the next debate as well. one...
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speaking of zingers, donald trump advises on twitter, in debate mitt romney should ask obama why auto by fri states born in kenya, raised in indonesia. i think that's a great idea, don't you? he's already got his birther joke handy. why not go straight for the birthers. >> his facts are as accurate as the republican facts have been. that was never said in obama's autobiography. it was a silly thing that a publicity agent had made years before. but just to pick up on karen's point for a second, i think she's onto something. you don't come to a gun fight with a butter knife. that's effectively what romney is doing. debates are about, guess what, debates. that means you come with facts and ideas. and it's hard for me to understand what exactly romney is coming to this debate with. >> 20% across the board tax cut. >> right. which has to mean a tax increase for the middle class. it's the only way to pay for it if you want it to be revenue neutral. he can't make the argument about the economy because as we've said, he'll try to make the argument that obama has been an infective steward. we'
speaking of zingers, donald trump advises on twitter, in debate mitt romney should ask obama why auto by fri states born in kenya, raised in indonesia. i think that's a great idea, don't you? he's already got his birther joke handy. why not go straight for the birthers. >> his facts are as accurate as the republican facts have been. that was never said in obama's autobiography. it was a silly thing that a publicity agent had made years before. but just to pick up on karen's point for a...
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obama, 47%. the question is that's who won the debate. is it going to move anything in ohio where polls have shown advantage obama? >> candy, can i jump in here? >> yes, sir. it's your turn. >> romney is going to ohio. romney is going to carry ohio. it's going to be a very, very close race, but this race fundamentally changed wednesday night in ohio. i think it did across the country. tremendous energy now, but i think here's where we were going into the debate. people like -- they said i like the guy, i like his family. he is a good person. he is nott doing a very good job. the opponent, then the next question is, is the challenger up to it? is he the person we want? frankly, iffing into wednesday night, people had not answered that second question. romney had not made the sale. i think what you saw wednesday night was the first opportunity that the average person had to see these two candidates head-to-head for an extended period of time, and when they saw that, guess who won? romney won. he was confident in that plan. the president was
obama, 47%. the question is that's who won the debate. is it going to move anything in ohio where polls have shown advantage obama? >> candy, can i jump in here? >> yes, sir. it's your turn. >> romney is going to ohio. romney is going to carry ohio. it's going to be a very, very close race, but this race fundamentally changed wednesday night in ohio. i think it did across the country. tremendous energy now, but i think here's where we were going into the debate. people like --...
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question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off again, second debate for them. and it comes as a new poll is out showing a mass shift in massachusetts. and joip our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. this is my song pick of the day. [ male announcer ] your mouth is cleanest after a dentist visit. ♪ but between check-ups, it goes through a
question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground...
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. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at debates during the last cycle. he got better throughout the course of the debates. so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work for
. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the professional consultants and politicians who get paid to spin you guys. that's not what my job is. it's a big n
this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with...
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will the town hall format of the next debate give barack obama a chance to show greater empathy. and will mitt romney be just as good when people ask the questions? hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, abc's sam donaldson, nbc's andrea mitchell, msnbc s.e. cupp and joe klein. the new jobs report gives the obama campaign a much-needed assist after the debacle wednesday night in denver. the debate's closing statements told the tale. the president was down and mitt romney was up. >> you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis, and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. >> it's an important election and i'm concerned about america. i'm concerned about the direction america has been taking over the last four years. what kind of america do you want to have for yourself and your children? chris: and the impact wednesday night can be seen at least four ways. first the media consensus, from the left, center and right. the media called the president's performance a failure and say mitt romney may get a second look now. s
will the town hall format of the next debate give barack obama a chance to show greater empathy. and will mitt romney be just as good when people ask the questions? hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, abc's sam donaldson, nbc's andrea mitchell, msnbc s.e. cupp and joe klein. the new jobs report gives the obama campaign a much-needed assist after the debacle wednesday night in denver. the debate's closing statements told the tale. the president was down and mitt romney...
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if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the course of the debate and helped himself by saying to americans, think back, are you better off today than you were four years ago, is it easier to get a job, are there fewer of you that are unemployed and by getting the american folks to concentrate on that as opposed to how much they like president carter really helped. >> that's a variation of the question that the romney campaign has been asking for several months and the results that they're getting based on the polling is not the answer that the romney campaign wants. >> well style matters in the debate. think about ronald reagan. jimmy carter had a lot of
if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the...